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Buying a log cabin

Buying a log cabin

What to look for when buying a log cabin

There are many details to keep an eye out for when buying a log cabin, in order to ensure that your log cabin lasts a lifetime, is cosy and easy to heat. Let’s start at the bottom and work our way up.

Weatherproof base construction

Waterline in a log cabin

It is really important that your log cabin cannot does not end up sitting in a pool of water and soaking up rain. That is why we at Timber Living log cabins always insist that the base concrete base of a log cabin is 20 millimetres  shorter than the log cabin itself. This ensures that the log cabin overhangs the base and that there is no possibility of water pooling under the cabin.

We also include a rain cill all around the cabin to throw any rainwater away from the base.

You can see perfect examples of all of our log cabins at our log cabin showrooms in Tullow, Boyle, Cork, Limerick and Galway. Just click on our Log Cabin Showrooms page for addresses and opening times.

Note: You need to phone ahead to Cork and Boyle to make an appointment.

Log cabin base/foundation details

This video goes through all of the details you should look for when checking out the foundations of a log cabin base.

Quality Log Cabin Timber

Timber Living Arctic Spruce

Our a log cabin timber is from Scandinavia (Norway, Sweden, Finland – not usually from Denmark). While it is Norway Spruce, it is often referred to as Arctic Spruce, since it is grown in or near the Arctic Circle. Timber that is grown in the Arctic Circle grows at a lot slower rate than timber grown in Ireland. That means that has a three month growing season, which makes the grain very very tight. This means there will be no bending, warping or splitting in your log cabin timber. Make sure that your supplier is using Arctic spruce in the construction of your log cabin. It is the most important fundamental element to your cabin and if you get this wrong you will see problems down the line.

Hard Floor Insulation

I have come across a number of cases where amateur log cabin companies have installed Rockwall in the floor of a log cabin. This has been a complete disaster for the owners. You need to use hard Kingspan insulation (or equivalent) in your floors. Rockwool insulation, lying on a cold concrete base with only a thin deep PC barrier will soak up condensation at a massive rate leading to a very very cold floor and also the potential for lots of rot in the floor Timbers. Even a whisper of this bad practice and you should turn on your heels and run from this supplier!

Quality Timber of uPVC Windows

Window colour choices

We offer you the choice of timber windows or uPVC windows for your log cabins. If you go for uPVC windows, you can have a wide choice of colours. Timber and white PVC windows are the same cost while a colored PVC set will set you back a little bit more financially. Please ask our reps when discussing your window choice. Interestingly, the timber windows, which come from our supplier in Latvia, open inwards while they weather glaze windows open outwards. Hi I sometimes think we should have an EU law to make all windows open inwards. I have windows in my house upstairs that have never been cleaned on the outside! You would take your life in your hands going up that high to clean them! There’s a lot more detail about the windows available to you in our blog post Which Windows for you log cabin?

Durable Roof Cover

Durable log cabin roof cover

Your roof cover is a hugely important element to the durability of your log cabin, and needs to be looked at closely when buying a log cabin. You need a long lasting, weatherproof roof covering, which will not require replacement after a number of years. We use a pressed aluminium, tile-effect roof cover which looks very very well and lasts a long lifetime. In fact, we have a cabin on the iron islands for 10 years now and the roof is as good as the day we built the cabin. If that is not a stress test, I don’t know what it is!

Because of the inherent construction of a log cabin, it is not possible to put a heavy roof covering on the building. That is why lighter tiles and tiling panels are used. This also means that they are cheaper and installed in a shorter time, saving yet more money. But although they are cheaper, they are just as durable and in fact, more storm proof than smaller individual tiles.

Clear Pricing – no extras!

Last but not least, make sure you know exactly what the full price iswhen buying a log cabin. Oftentimes there are a list of extras and other log cabin supplier websites. Choice of roof cover, quantity of insulation, type of base, window type etcetera. We at timber living only offer one price, and that is the price for the complete timber building including windows, doors and roof cover and insulation, delivered and built. There are no extra costs for further mileage outside a 50km radius, or in accommodation costs if the guys have to stay over.

Guilty as charged, we do not supply gutters. But if you have them on site when we are building and you are nice to the lads, I’m sure they’ll throw them up for you!

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Log cabin foundations – what’s best?

Log cabin foundations – what’s best?

Your log cabin foundations are key if you want your log cabin to last a lifetime. The only way to be sure that there will be no settlement in your log cabin over the years is to put in a flat slab log cabin foundations. So, what are your log cabin foundation options? Building a log cabin on a set of piles or strip foundations is over complicated and costly.

Foundation for a log cabin – get it right

I have often heard the story that a few years ago there was a very good carpenter in West Munster who was hand-building bespoke design log cabins.  He was doing a beautiful job, using the best timber and putting the finest care into the construction of the cabins. They were a sight to see when they were first built.

Unfortunately, this builder did not have the correct log cabin foundations. He built his cabins on an array of blocks which are not property-footed. Over a period of time, the blocks shifted as the log cabins settled. This led to severe structural deterioration of the cabins and of course, the customers were very unhappy. The carpenter was soon out of business.

How to build a foundation for a log cabin

Any reasonably competent builder will know how to build your log cabin foundation. Just tell them you’re looking for a concrete slab for a log cabin. Your base needs to be level and square and to specific dimensions which we will supply to you. Your log cabin foundations will be 10 mm shorter than the cabin on each edge. Your cabin will therefore overhang the base by 10 mm all around.

We also ran a throated sill all around the foot of the cabin to throw the water away from the log cabin base. This means that water will not pool underneath the cabin. This ensures that there is no opportunity for rot to start developing in the base timbers.

You will need to put a Radon barrier and venting system beneath your log cabin foundations. Again, this is something your builder should be very familiar with. We will supply a damp-proof course which goes onto the surface of the base.

Along with the base dimensions, we will also supply you and your builder with detailed drawings of the cabin itself, so that you can decide where you want to locate all inlet and outlet pipes, for water and sewage.

Log Cabin Base Specifications

For a standard, single-storey cabin, we require a base 6-inch 804 hardcore and 5-inch concrete. (30-33 N concrete.)

This log cabin foundation specification will suit all of Timber Living’s Log Cabins Ireland, from our one-bedroom log cabins, all the way up to the four-bed bespoke log cabins. Our timber-frame buildings, designed for planning permission, require a different base.

All of our log cabins require a base that is ten millimetres shorter on all sides than the wood which sits on top of it. In other words, the log cabin will overhang the foundation by 10mm all around. The purpose of this overhang is to ensure that the log cabin is never sitting in water. To further guarantee this, we include a throated rain sill which runs all around the base of the cabin, throwing water which runs down the walls away from the base of the cabin.

Foundations for smaller single-room log cabins

If you’re building a single-room cabin, less than 25 square metres, you can build a simple timber frame base for a log cabin.
You will need rows of blocks, maximum of one metre apart. On top of this, you will need log cabin foundation beams – lengths of 4″ x 3″ treated timber, at 800mm centres, running perpendicular to the rows of block.
On top of this, we need a marine plywood platform to the dimensions required. The function of the plywood is to support the underfloor insulation. This platform needs to be level and square.

Log Cabin Base Drawings

If you decide to buy your log cabin from us at TimberLiving, we will supply you with drawings of your cabin, including an accurately dimensioned drawing of your log cabin foundations. so that you can determine where you want to bring in water and sewerage lines. If you have any questions about any of these technical details, be sure to give us a call.

Or you can discuss any of these issues with our teams around the country

  • Fergus and Valerie in Tullow, Co Carlow (05991 81039)
  • Conor in Boyle, Co Roscommon and Galway (086 817 0429)
  • Donal in Carrigaline, Co Cork and Limerick (087 6464 280)

Building the correct log cabin foundations is just the first step in creating your log cabin. You will need lots of information on painting (actually, staining) your cabin, installing electrics and plumbing, guttering and ongoing maintenance of your log cabin (which is not a particularly big task, you’ll be glad to hear!)

We have articles on all of the most important questions that people ask, and some more obscure articles too! And if you find we haven’t discovered a particular topic related to log cabins, please let us know.

Check out our blog for all of the information you’re going to need. Or better still, come and visit us at our nationwide showrooms in Cork, Boyle,  Tullow, Galway and Limerick.

You’ll find our staff extremely helpful and knowledgeable on all subjects and details around log cabins – including log cabin foundations!

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How are Log Cabins constructed?

Building a log cabin

The timber in your log cabin is most important element of your new home, but it is worth nothing if your cabin is not built by experienced log cabin builders.

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Of course, while the materials used in your log cabin are of paramount importance, we must not forget that the method of construction and the intrinsic design of the building envelope are also key features that make timber living log cabins Ireland the best quality and value log cabins available in the country.

The Best Log Cabin Timber

We use only the highest grade Norway Spruce timber in our log cabin homes. This timber is sourced in Siberia, where the trees are 150 years old when they are harvested. They are extremely well suited to timber for construction  of log houses Ireland. Because they have a very short growing season, these trees have extremely tight grain, and and will not twist, warp or buckle overtime. Have a read of our blog post all about log cabin timber here: ,,What timber should a log cabin be built with?

Building a log cabin

The double-glazed, tilt-and-turn windows and five-point locking doors in our log houses are made of extremely high quality, and will endure for a lifetime. We also offer a wide choice of different log cabin windows, including white or coloured PVC windows. Read our blog post here: ,,Which windows for your log cabin?

Log cabin insulation

We use high quality Kingspan log cabin Insulation in our log cabin homes. Our log cabin in Boyle was built for us in the spring of 2018. The summer of 2018 was a great summer – really hot for weeks! (Will we ever forget!) Anyway, we were really amazed at how cool the cabin remained all of that summer, despite the sun beating down on our black roof. The coolness was due to the quality of insulation in our log cabin roof. (And also due to the positioning of our cabin – we get very little sun in through our windows. Come and visit us at the Boyle Log Cabin Showhouse and you’ll see…)

Our  standard log cabin  insulation thickness is 100mm, but this can be increased according to the customers wishes or planning specifications.

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Log Cabin Roofing

We use a quality pressed Steel tile effect roofing panel which is sturdy and enduring. These panels are quick to fit and storm proof. we have a cabin on the Aran Islands for the last number of years, and it is still there! – a very high performing roof on that log cabin.

Our roofs are fitted with a minimum of 100 millimetres (four inches) of Kingspan PIR insulation, which, combined with our 19mm ceiling boards provide a great level of insulation.

Common Mistakes of Log Cabin Construction

It is a common mistake of many log cabin installers to use rockwool insulation under floors. This is a drastic mistake.  In wintertime, at temperatures below 4 degrees, condensation forms on the concrete slab and rockwool insulation soaks this condensation up. Your installation is not insulation when it is wet. You have a cold floor or and damp problems. You must have Kingspan Insulation in your log cabin floor.

Another drastic mistake is to opt for single wall construction, especially if your cabin is being heated during cold winter nights. A cavity construction is vital in these conditions to avoid condensation, damp and mould on interior walls. A single wall, even a 90 millimetre wall, is insufficient insulation for a residential cabin, and will need to be dry-lined. The surface of a single wall cabin will form mould on cold nights in unseen places, such as behind wardrobes. This is because these areas are not heated – the wardrbe does not let the heat in behind. So the wall surface is still cold, and the damp air in the cabin condenses on the cold surface, and lo and behold – mould! Not what you want in your cabin. That’s why you buy from a company sch as Timber Living Log cabins, who have been building cabins for over twnty years, and have seen every conceivable problem in Log Cabin construction, and solved them all.

 

 Installing a stove in your log cabin

There are no restrictions on the heating system that can be installed in a log house. Stoves with or without back boilers are straightforward installations. Of course, oil and gas central heating systems are also an option as our underfloor heating and inverters. Just contact us at TimberLiving and we can fill you in on all of the technical details required.

How long does it take to build a log cabin?

We always tell customers that, at a push, you could move into your log cabin four weeks after breaking ground. Now, that’s at quite a push, and also depends on the size of the cabin. But the speed of construction is one of the great benefits of buying a log cabin.

Lets look at ow the timeline could pan out for one of our Limerick Log cabins.

Week 1: Pour the base.

Week 2: Monday/Tuesday. Build the exterior of the cabin. Wednesday first fit electrics. Thursday First fit plumbing.

Week 3: Monday-Wednesday complete the cabin construction. Thursday/Friday floor coverings

Week 4: Monday Complete electrical. Tuesday/Wednesday complete plumbing and install heating. Thursday Friday install kitchen.

Okay, its a bit of a push, but it does illustrate how quickly your cabin can be built. We always say, if you order today, you COULD be in in three months, if you line up your ducks properly…

Come visit us in our show houses, or give us a call to organise an appointment.

Call Tullow 05991 81039

Call Boyle 0868170429

CAll Carrigaline 087 6464 280

We look forward to hearing from you!

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